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- Approved Agenda -- X3T9.2 Meeting #78
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- 1. Opening Remarks
- 2. Approval of Agenda
- 3. Attendance and Membership
- 3.1 Roll Call of Members in Jeopardy
- 4. Approval of Minutes - August Meeting Milpitas, CA (X3T9.2/88-096)
- 5. Document Distribution
- 6. Liaison Reports
- 6.1 ISO
- 7. Review of Old Action Items
- 8. Working Group and/or Project Status Reports
- 8.1 ESDI
- 8.1.1 ESDI Public Review Comment Resolution
- 8.2 Flexible Disk
- 8.3 SCSI General Working Group (X3T9.2/88-109)
- 8.4 Fiber Optic Physical Layer Study Group
- 8.5 Autoconfiguration SSWG
- 8.6 Transmission Line SSWG
- 8.7 Medium Changers SSWG
- 8.8 Hierarchical Filemarks SSWG (X3T9.2/88-107)
- 9. Old Business
- 9.1 SCSI Device Connector Orientation (X3T9.2/88-80 Rev 2)
- 9.2 Number of Terminator Power Lines for SCSI-2 (X3T9.2/88-48R1,-77,-87)
- 9.3 Schedule for SCSI-2
- 9.4 Review of SCSI-2 Draft Document (X3T9.2/86-109 Rev 5)
- 9.4.1 12-byte LOG SELECT/SENSE (X3T9.2/88-95)
- 9.4.2 Rotational Position Locking
- 9.4.3 Device Models
- 9.4.4 B Cable Data Transfer Requirements (X3T9.2/88-108)
- 9.4.5 Generic Error Recovery Page (X3T9.2/88-103 Rev 1)
- 9.4.6 What if the initiator fails to negate ATN per Table 5-2?
- 9.5 Connector Proposals
- 9.5.1 AMP (X3T9.2/88-133,134)
- 9.5.2 Stewart Stamping Connector Proposal (X3T9.2/88-67,-111,-128)
- 9.5.3 Plating & maximum envelope -- Amphenol
- 9.6 Format Progress Reporting
- 10. New Business
- 10.1 Review of new documents
- 10.2 Agenda for Austin Working Group
- 10.3 Alternative S.E. terminator
- 10.4 Terminate indicate
- 11. Review of Action Items
- 12. Meeting Schedule
- 12.1 General Working Group Schedule for 1989
- 13. Adjournment
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- Minutes -- X3T9.2 Meeting #78
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- 1. Opening Remarks
-
- John Lohmeyer, the Chairman, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
- Monday October 10, 1988. He thanked Mary Jane Strohl (in absentia) of
- Apollo for hosting the meeting and he also thanked Classic Conferences for
- arranging the meeting.
-
- He apologized in advance for Dal Allan's, Larry Lamers', and his lack of
- alertness due to having just returned from the SC-13 meeting in Tokyo.
-
- As is customary, the attendees introduced themselves. A copy of the X3T9.2
- membership list was circulated for attendance and corrections. Copies of
- the draft agenda and the recent document register were made available to all
- attendees. Information on X3T9.2 and Document Distribution Application
- forms were made available for new attendees.
-
- 2. Approval of Agenda
-
- The draft agenda was approved with the following additions:
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- 3. Attendance and Membership
-
- The membership requirements were reviewed. The Chairman stated that since
- the last meeting several changes had occurred in the voting membership:
- Masayuki Yokoyama has replaced Sergio Fonesca as Sony's Alternate; Anil
- Gupta has replaced Ken D'Souza as Western Digital's Alternate; and Martin
- Pullam and M. Perugini of Winchester Electronics have become voting members
- of the committee. Martin Pullam was a Principal member of the committee
- previously when he worked for JAE.
-
- At the meeting, Jim Harper of Optotech was reinstated as a Principal member.
-
- John Lohmeyer said he was sorry if he had frightened anyone at the last
- meeting by announcing those organizations which had not paid their service
- fees. After some analysis, the X3 Secretariat had determined that their
- membership lists were only about 25% accurate. They were re-entering the
- membership lists from the committee lists to bill the correct people in the
- organizations. No one will be terminated for non-payment until the
- Secretariat's lists are straightened out.
-
- Enclosure (1) is the list of attendees at the meeting. Enclosure (2) is the
- X3T9.2 membership changes since the last minutes and enclosure (3) is the
- current X3T9.2 membership list.
-
- 3.1 Roll Call of Members in Jeopardy
-
- The Chairman stated that he had sent jeopardy letters to all
- representatives of the following organizations: A.C.T./Shugart, Advanced
- Micro Devices, Congruent Software, Inc., Datacopy Corp., Interphase
- Corp., Iomega Corp., MAI Basic Four, Mitsubishi Electronics America,
- Northern Telecom, Inc., Seagate Technology, Storage Technology Corp., Sun
- Microsystems, Inc., and Technology Forums, Ltd. The letters said that
- these organizations had failed to attend two of the last three plenary
- meetings and that their membership would be terminated unless they
- attended the October plenary meeting. The letters to Michael O'Donnell
- of Storage Technology and Moshe Segal of AMD were returned marked that
- they are no longer at their addresses.
-
- Representatives were present from all of the organizations except
- A.C.T./Shugart, and MAI Basic Four. These organizations were changed to
- Observer status.
-
- 4. Approval of Minutes - August Meeting Milpitas, CA (X3T9.2/88-096)
-
- The minutes were approved as written.
-
- 5. Document Distribution
-
- The Chairman stated that the X3 Secretariat had once again processed the
- mailing promptly, but that due to the large size, they had to authorize
- overtime for the copy service in order to meet the two-week rule. Kate
- McMillan has requested that the next mailing be split into two mailings: the
- first would include SCSI-2 Rev 6 and the second would include new documents
- from the Austin working group meeting. The second mailing may not arrive
- two weeks prior to the December meeting due to the short time between
- meetings. The idea is to give the secretariat more lead time on the bulky
- part of the mailing. John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the
- next mailing be sent to him by October 28.
-
- The following new documents were distributed at the meeting:
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- Document Doc Date Author Description of Document
- ------------- -------- --------------- ---------------------------------------
- X3T9.2/88-65 10/10/88 P. Boulay Asynchronous Event Notification
- Rev 3 Revision
- X3T9.2/88-95 9/30/88 B. Pentecost LOG SELECT and LOG SENSE commands for
- Rev 1 Large Logs
- X3T9.2/88-107 10/3/88 B. Homans Hierarchical Filemarks (Setmarks)
- Rev 1
- X3T9.2/88-108 10/6/88 R. Snively B Cable Data Transfer Requirements
- Rev 1
- X3T9.2/88-116 J. Stai Disable function for "IGNORE WIDE
- RESIDUE" message
- X3T9.2/88-118 9/27/88 J. Lohmeyer Interpretation of the Connector
- Standing Rules
- X3T9.2/88-119 9/29/88 B. Weber NCR Public Review comment on dpANS BSR
- X3.170-198X (ESDI 2.A)
- X3T9.2/88-120 10/9/88 B. Spence Data Pointer
- X3T9.2/88-121 10/10/88 P. Boulay Disconnect Control via Mode Select
- X3T9.2/88-122 9/20/88 S. Jones Change Definition vs. Inquiry
- Inconsistency
- X3T9.2/88-123 9/30/88 D. Allan Common Access Method Committee
- X3T9.2/88-124 10/6/88 S. Cornaby Progress Reporting
- X3T9.2/88-125 10/8/88 B. Spence Notice re the November X3T9.2 Working
- Group Meeting
- X3T9.2/88-126 10/5/88 T. Wicklund Comments on SCSI-2, Revision 5 document
- X3T9.2/88-127 10/10/88 G. Penokie Error Handling Action Codes
- X3T9.2/88-128 10/10/88 D. Hatch Stewart Connector presentation
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- Enclosure (4) is the current 1988 document register.
-
- 6. Liaison Reports
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- 6.1 ISO
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- The ISO/JTC 1/SC 13 meeting the week of 3 October in Tokyo was attended
- by delegates from Denmark, Germany, F.R., Japan, Sweden, United Kingdom,
- U.S.A., and the U.S.S.R. In addition there was liaison representation
- from ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 6, ISO Central secretariat Geneva, and the ISO/IEC
- JTC 1 (Vice Chairman).
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- During the work, SC 13 passed the following resolutions:
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- (1) terminate consideration of the LDDI under Project 1 in favor of the
- newer alternative interface FDDI;
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- (2) progress DIS 9314-1 on FDDI PHY to the Central Secretariat for final
- processing with applicable editorial changes (including elimination of
- the Foreword), the elimination of references to contacting the
- secretariat for further information, a change of Note 2 on page 7 to
- "This primitive is not used by ISO 9314-2 FDDI MAC.", and correction of
- the typographical error in Figure 4 on page 29 to label Input(I) as (30a)
- rather than (31a).
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- (3) initiate an amendment to IS 9314-1 on FDDI PHY to delete the unused
- service primitive.
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- (4) progress DIS 9314-2 on FDDI MAC to the Central Secretariat for final
- processing with applicable editorial changes (including elimination of
- the Foreword and moving Normative References 6 and 7 to an informational
- reference at the end of the standard), the elimination of references to
- contacting the secretariat for further information, a change of Note 2 on
- page 12 to "This PHY to MAC service primitive is not used by this
- standard.", changing note 4 on page 24 to "This clause is the subject of
- a future amendment.", changing note 5 on page 40 to "The list of Valid
- Frame criteria may be the subject of a future amendment.", and by the
- editorial clarification of the last paragraph on page 47 of replacing
- "restored" in two places by "restored to the set condition".
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- (5) initiate an amendment to IS 9314-2 on FDDI MAC to change the
- addressing to 48 bits mandatory and 16 bits optional and to delete the
- unused service primitive.
-
- (6) progress DIS 9315 on Flexible Disk Drive Interface to the Central
- Secretariat for final processing and to correct the dimensional errors in
- the board edge dimensions.
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- (7) terminate consideration of DP 9323 on Rigid Disk Interface under
- project 10.2 in favor of the newer alternative interfaces ESDI and IPI-2
- disk.
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- (8) progress DIS 9316 on SCSI to the Central Secretariat for final
- processing.
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- (9) progress DIS 9317 on Streaming Cartridge and Cassette Tape Drives to
- the Central Secretariat for final processing.
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- (10) progress DIS 9318 on Intelligent Peripheral Interface (IPI) -
- Physical Level to the Central Secretariat for final processing.
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- (11) progress DIS 9319 on Intelligent Peripheral Interface (IPI) - Device
- specific command set for magnetic disk drives to the Central Secretariat
- for final processing.
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- (12) progress DIS 9320 on Intelligent Peripheral Interface (IPI) - Device
- generic command set for magnetic and optical disk drives to the Central
- Secretariat for final processing.
-
- (13) progress DIS 9321 on Intelligent Peripheral Interface (IPI) - Device
- generic command set for magnetic tape to the Central Secretariat for
- final processing, providing that the upcoming DIS letter ballot passes
- without the need for substantial change.
-
- (14) progress the Intelligent Peripheral Interface (IPI) - Device
- specific command set for magnetic tape (N468) as a DIS.
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- (15) progress the Enhanced Small Device Interface (ESDI) (N469) as a DIS.
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- (16) progress the enhanced Small Computer System Interface (SCSI-2) as a
- DP after its approval by X3T9.
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- (17) progress the Enhanced Intelligent Peripheral Interface (IPI) -
- Physical Level as DP 9318-6 after its approval by X3T9.
-
- (18) renumber the family of IPI documents replacing the separate numbers
- with 9318 followed by a sequential part number as new IPI documents are
- assigned.
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- (19) forward Tokyo-9, "International Standardized Profiles for the use of
- FDDI as LAN and as backbone network between LANs of the 8802 type."
- proposed New Work Item on ISPs for FDDI, to the JTC 1 secretariat for
- letter ballot with assignment to SC 13.
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- (20) close liaison with SC 83 and nominates Prof. Popovic to become
- liaison officer to SC 83.
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- (21) Thanks to Japan for hosting the meeting.
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- Chairman's note: The complete minutes of the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC13 meeting
- are available on the SCSI Bulletin Board (316-636-8700) in File Area 1.
-
- 7. Review of Old Action Items
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- 1. Dan Davies will propose revised wording in the retry counts and
- algorithms of REQUEST SENSE and MODE SELECT. Complete (see 88-103R1).
-
- 2. Harvey Waltersdorf will provide the UL, CSA, VDE listings and the
- electrical characteristics of 25-mil centerline, 28-AWG ribbon cables.
- This item was mostly completed at the August meeting. No further work
- was done on it. It will be dropped from action item list.
-
- 3. Bob Mortensen will take another pass at the wording on Rotational
- Position Locking and will submit it to the working group for further
- consideration. Carried over.
-
- 4. Jerry Marazas will modify the connector orientation drawing to be more
- generic and will attempt to get it into a suitable electronic format.
- Jerry was not present. This action item was dropped as a result of
- the failed motion during 9.1.
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- 5. John Lohmeyer will revise section 5 to include 88-91 along with the
- modifications developed in the August meeting. Carried over.
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- 8. Working Group and/or Project Status Reports
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- 8.1 ESDI
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- 8.1.1 ESDI Public Review Comment Resolution
-
- The first public review period on ESDI (BSR X3.170-198X) ended October
- 3, 1988. Two formal comments were received, one from GSA and one from
- NCR. There were also several informal comments were received by the
- task group:
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- 1) Registration authority procedure for vendor codes (88-61).
- 2) Revised vendor codes (88-73).
- 3) Correction to spindle motor control (88-74).
- 4) Tom Wicklund's comments (88-89).
- 5) Ciprico/NCR proposal on ESDI timing parameters (88-113).
-
- Dal Allan reported that the comment from GSA was subsequently withdrawn
- after he sent Mr. Rinehuls a complete copy of the ESDI document. The
- resolution of these comments was assigned to an ad hoc group which met
- Monday evening (see X3T9.2/88-131).
-
- All comments were resolved by the ad hoc group. Dal Allan will revise
- the ESDI document and will send it to John Lohmeyer for the next X3T9.2
- mailing and to Bill Burr for the next X3T9 mailing. It is expected that
- there will be a forwarding motion on ESDI at the December meeting.
-
- 8.2 Flexible Disk
-
- Gene Milligan reported for Gary Robinson. The edge connector dimensions
- for width do not add up correctly. This may be a tolerance issue. Gary
- Robinson will address this issue and it will be fixed as a editorial item
- in the document.
-
- Gene suggested that the edge-connector drawings should be checked in
- other X3T9 documents which may have copied the Flexible Disk drawings.
-
- 8.3 SCSI General Working Group (X3T9.2/88-109)
-
- A working group meeting was held August 29-31 in San Jose, CA. Jim
- McGrath of Quantum hosted the meeting. Dal Allan chaired the meeting and
- Larry Lamers kept the minutes. There were 45 attendees. Dal Allan
- reported on the significant actions taken by the working group. Please
- refer to X3T9.2/88-109 for the meeting minutes (September mailing).
-
- The main topic discussed was the transmission line problems. The
- alternatives were not attractive. However the issue will not disappear,
- and the problem is aggravated with the higher transfer rates and the fact
- that cables are typically of a lower impedance than was assumed in the
- SCSI standard.
-
- 8.4 Fiber Optic Physical Layer Study Group
-
- A fiber optic study group meeting was held September 26-27 at Hewlett
- Packard in San Jose, CA. Dal Allan chaired the meeting. Dal gave a
- brief report on the meeting and minutes (see X3T9.2/88-129) will be
- included in the next mailings from X3T9.2 and X3T9.3.
-
- The fiber optic physical layer project proposal was approved by X3 36 Yes
- to 1 No. The no vote was from AMP, who wanted connector selection
- responsibility to go to EIA because they felt that X3T9 could not handle
- connector issues expeditiously. X3T9.3's response is that they do not
- want to be dependent on another group's schedule for connector selection.
-
- A set of items was developed as a requirements document model for the
- group. Three levels of performance and cost were discussed by the group.
- The initial study activity has been completed and now the group will
- begin the proposal stage.
-
- The next fiber optic physical layer working group meeting is scheduled
- for December 1-2, 1988 in Cupertino. Jim Smith at Tandem Computers (408-
- 996-6545) is arranging the meeting.
-
- In response to questions from committee members on where this activity is
- going with respect to SCSI, Dal Allan responded that the fiber channel is
- an X3T9.3 activity. He requested more active representation from the
- SCSI group. He expected that SCSI-3 could reference the fiber channel as
- an alternative physical configuration.
-
- Chairman's note: X3T9.2 will probably have to develop some documentation
- to describe how to use the fiber channel physical layer with SCSI. This
- may be part of the SCSI-3 project or we may elect to submit a separate
- project proposal for this activity.
-
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- 8.5 Autoconfiguration SSWG
-
- Paul Boulay led this SSWG which met at various times during the San Jose
- working group meeting. Jerry Marazas gave an overview of revision 2 of
- his proposal (88-69R2) and time was spent on developing Jim McGrath's
- counter-proposal. The SSWG asked Jerry and Jim to identify any changes
- that should be made in SCSI-2 so that their techniques, if included in
- SCSI-3, would have optimal compatibility with SCSI-2 devices.
-
- Paul Boulay gave a brief report of the SSWG activities. Jim McGrath
- completed his action item in document X3T9.2/88-115.
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- 8.6 Transmission Line SSWG (X3T9.2/88-109)
-
- This SSWG met in San Jose during the general working group meeting. Jeff
- Stai led the group. Since Jeff was unable to attend the Boston meeting,
- Dal Allan reported on the SSWG. The SSWG developed three recommendations
- on what should/could be done about single-ended signal quality:
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- 1) All cable used in the system should be 90-132 ohms.
- 2) Reduce the maximum cable length from six meters.
- 3) Provide advice on cable lengths in implementations.
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- Other more-drastic solutions such as changing the drivers/receivers and
- termination circuits were deemed unacceptable for SCSI-2 but may be
- considered under the SCSI-3 project.
-
- Jim Schuessler presented an idea on a method to automatically cut the
- power to the terminator if the bus is plugged into an old device. This
- would prevent any of the old drivers from being damaged. The proposal
- does require the re-definition of a signal to terminator sense in the
- interface. If any old device is connected to the bus then all new
- devices would cut power to their terminators. The proposed termination
- circuit would dissipate about 3 watts and thus there is a size
- consideration for fitting into a terminator block.
-
- 8.7 Medium Changers SSWG
-
- Paul Boulay led this SSWG and gave a brief report to the plenary. He is
- also the editor of this section.
-
- There still is work to be done on this section. The most significant
- change so far has been to the READ ELEMENT STATUS command. The plan is
- to complete the work and have a revised document for the Austin working
- group meeting.
-
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- 8.8 Hierarchical Filemarks SSWG (X3T9.2/88-107R1)
-
- The group has changed the name of this concept to "Setmarks" and has
- developed wording for SCSI-2 Rev 6. The idea is to create filemark-like
- blocks that have different levels or priorities. Setmarks used within a
- file would would have lower priority than those used to delimit a file.
- A group of related files could be delimited with still higher priority
- setmarks.
-
- Mike Mattei, substituting for Bill Homans, gave a report on the SSWG.
- The SSWG developed X3T9.2/88-107 Rev. 1 which was accepted by the plenary
- for inclusion into SCSI-2 R6.
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- 9. Old Business
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- 9.1 SCSI Device Connector Orientation (X3T9.2/88-80 Rev 2)
-
- Jerry Marazas was not present. Bill Spence nominated Gene Milligan to
- undertake the action item to provide a drawing of the correct connector
- orientation. Gene developed three figures during the course of the
- meeting.
-
- Tuesday morning, Gene Milligan presented the figures on connector
- orientation with pin 1 in the upper right-hand corner of the connector
- when viewing the device from the rear of the enclosure. Figure 1
- included a suggestion that the power connector be further to the right of
- the A cable connector. Figure 2 included a suggestion on where the B
- cable connector should be located (between the A cable connector and the
- power connector with pin 1 in the upper right). Figure 3 omitted both
- the power and the B cable connectors.
-
- Dal Allan recommended that the figures also include a suggestion that
- when mounting such a device vertically, it be rotated so that pin 1 would
- be oriented up.
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- Gene Milligan moved and Bob Snively seconded that X3T9.2 accept the first
- two figures presented by Gene Milligan showing preferred connector
- orientations but without the power connectors, (including the vertical
- recommendation), and that X3T9.2 direct the editor to include similar
- figures with appropriate wording to indicate that this is a suggestion
- only, not a requirement. The motion failed, 12 in favor and 20 opposed.
-
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- 9.2 Number of Terminator Power Lines for SCSI-2 (X3T9.2/88-48R1,-77,-87)
-
- The discussion turned to reserving some of the lines in SCSI-2, to allow
- for future flexibility. There was a general agreement to do this as long
- as the standard did specify a particular future use. The big problem was
- what to do with the "reserved" signals; are they open, grounded,
- passively terminated, actively terminated, or some combination of these.
-
- John Morse moved and Steve Goldman seconded that four lines in the
- A cable connector be reserved for future use. "Reserved" was to be
- defined by the conclusion of this plenary meeting.
-
- Bill Spence moved and Bob Snively seconded that the motion be amended to
- not change any signal definition for the A cable from that specified in
- SCSI-2 R5. The motion to amend failed, 12 in favor and 16 opposed.
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- The main motion carried, 14 in favor and 12 opposed.
-
- John Morse moved and John Lohmeyer seconded that pins 23, 24, 27, and 28
- in the low-density A cable connector and 12, 14, 37, and 39 in the high-
- density A cable connector be those "reserved" lines. The motion carried,
- 9 in favor and 6 opposed.
-
- John Morse moved and John Lohmeyer seconded that "reserved" be defined as
- open at the devices and ground at the terminator.
-
- Jim McGrath moved and Bob Snively seconded that the motion be amended so
- that "reserved" be defined as either open or ground (with open
- recommended) at the device and ground at the terminator. The motion to
- amend carried, 23 in favor and 2 opposed.
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- The amended motion carried, 26 in favor and 4 opposed.
-
- The plenary directed the editor to incorporate the necessary wording into
- SCSI-2 R6.
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- 9.3 Schedule for SCSI-2
-
- John Lohmeyer reported that he and Larry Lamers intend to meet the last
- week of October to prepare revision 6 of SCSI-2. This document is to be
- included in the November mailing. Bill Spence had volunteered to make a
- few copies for the attendees of the November working group meeting so
- that they can thoroughly review the document. If the changes are not too
- extensive, then a revision 7 would be prepared from the marked-up copy of
- revision 6 for forwarding at the December plenary meeting. Of course,
- any significant changes or unresolved issues would slip this schedule.
-
- Gene Milligan moved and Peter Johansson seconded that upon the
- termination of the October plenary meeting any new proposal not be
- considered until SCSI-2 is forwarded. The motion carried, 28 in favor
- and 4 opposed.
-
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- 9.4 Review of SCSI-2 Draft Document (X3T9.2/86-109 Rev 5)
-
- John Lohmeyer stated that Ben Driscoll has resigned his position as
- editor of the scanner section of SCSI-2 since he has left Datacopy. Greg
- DeRosa who replaces Ben as the Datacopy Alternate has volunteered to be
- the new scanner section editor. John asked for opinions on whether this
- section still required a section editor or should it be assigned to the
- general editor, Larry Lamers. Larry recommended that the scanner model
- and a glossary should be completed by the section editor prior to
- assigning the section to him. Larry Lamers will contact Greg DeRosa
- concerning the development of a model and a glossary for scanner devices
- and his willingness to be the scanner section editor.
-
- George Penokie made several (mostly editorial) comments on SCSI-2 R5.
- These comments were reviewed by the plenary meeting attendees and the
- section editors will make the appropriate corrections.
-
- 9.4.1 12-byte LOG SELECT/SENSE (X3T9.2/88-95, 88-132)
-
- The two options recommended by the working group were put to a straw
- vote:
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- a) twelve-byte command descriptor blocks (3 in favor, 11 opposed)
- b) use ten-byte commands with the allocation length in blocks (13 in
- favor, 4 opposed)
-
- During the meeting, Bob Pentecost developed yet another proposal for
- doing log parameters in chunks using 10-byte commands (see 88-132).
-
- This document with a few additional changes (88-132 R1) was accepted
- for inclusion in SCSI-2 R6.
-
- During the discussion it was noticed that page 7-31 paragraph 3 in
- SCSI-2 R5 references a section that does not exist and should contain
- a description of time ordering of log entries. Jim McGrath said that
- the section had existed in the original proposal but may have been
- lost as it was edited into the draft document. Jim Semenak was
- assigned an action item to correct this problem.
-
- 9.4.2 Rotational Position Locking
-
- As Bob Mortensen and Larry Lamers had not met yet, this item was
- carried over.
-
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- 9.4.3 Device Models
- The Chairman advised the committee that the following device models
- are still missing and, ideally, should be completed before the
- document is forwarded. The following is the list of assignments for
- model development:
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- Section 8: Direct Access Devices - Greg Fry
- Section 9: Sequential Access Devices - complete
- Section 10: Printer Devices - John Lohmeyer
- Section 11: Processor Devices - Jeff Stai
- Section 12: Write-Once Devices - unassigned
- Section 13: CD-ROM Devices - complete
- Section 14: Scanner Devices - Larry Lamers to contact Greg DeRosa
- Section 15: Optical Memory Devices - Larry Lamers
- Section 16: Medium Changer Devices - Paul Boulay
- Section 17: Communication Devices - Bob Snively
-
- At the August working group meeting, Dal Allan had suggested that the
- Direct-Access Device model quite possibly could be developed from a
- model for rotating storage devices that Bill Burr had written 18 to 24
- months previously. John Lohmeyer said he thought this model contained
- mostly device-level information and may have to be edited extensively
- before it could be used for SCSI-2. He accepted an action item to
- obtain this model from Bill Burr.
-
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- 9.4.4 B Cable Data Transfer Requirements (X3T9.2/88-108 R1)
-
- Bob Snively's document (88-108 R1) was accepted as modified in the
- meeting for incorporation into SCSI-2 R6.
-
-
- 9.4.5 Generic Error Recovery Page (X3T9.2/88-103 Rev 1)
-
- Since Dan Davies had to leave before this item was discussed, it was
- remanded to the working group.
-
-
- 9.4.6 What if the initiator fails to negate ATN per Table 5-2?
-
- In revision 4, Table 5-2 was revised to specify that the initiator
- should negate the ATN signal prior to asserting the ACK signal on the
- last byte of several messages. The was intended to reduce the total
- number of messages that must be processed with a single MESSAGE OUT
- phase. Unfortunately, rev 4 did not say what a target should do if
- the initiator failed to meet this requirement. George Penokie noticed
- this problem and suggested that the standard should really specify the
- correct target response.
-
- John Lohmeyer added a statement to revision 5 on page 5-10 saying the
- target shall go to the BUS FREE phase (unexpected BUS FREE) if the
- initiator fails to negate ATN before asserting ACK on the last byte of
- one of these messages. He also included a [] note soliciting any
- objections. The San Jose working group felt that this change was
- sufficiently technical to warrant discussion and a formal vote at the
- plenary meeting.
-
- John Lohmeyer moved and Bill Spence seconded that the change made to
- the third paragraph of 5.2.1 be accepted as modified and that the []
- note be deleted in SCSI-2 rev 6. The motion carried, 19 in favor and
- 0 opposed.
-
-
- 9.5 Connector Proposals
-
- 9.5.1 AMP (X3T9.2/88-133,134)
-
- Bob Whiteman gave a presentation on the SCSI cable impedance
- characteristics based on computer simulation and an actual hardware
- configuration. Bud Reyner, a transmission line specialist for AMP,
- was present to respond to questions from the committee. See documents
- X3T9.2/88-133 and -134.
-
-
- 9.5.2 Stewart Stamping Connector Proposal (X3T9.2/88-67,-111,-128)
-
- David Hatch gave a presentation on nonshielded high-density connectors
- which can be used with 50-mil centerline flat ribbon cable. The
- ribbon cable is split into two equal width pieces and the cables are
- terminated one directly on top of the other with the conductors offset
- by 25-mils. See document X3T9.2/88-136.
-
- Dal Allan moved and Steve Goldman seconded that volunteer
- organizations initiate testing of the cabling and connector
- alternatives and that the existing connector and pinout designations
- be retained unless significant technical problems are uncovered. The
- motion carried, 25 in favor and 11 opposed.
-
- The following organizations volunteered to participate in the testing:
- 3M, Adaptec, AMP, DEC, and Technology Forums.
-
- 9.5.3 Plating & maximum envelope for connectors -- Amphenol
-
- Mike Wingard of Amphenol requested a recommendation from the committee
- on what the desired connector envelope is for terminators and cable
- harness assemblies and how thick the plating should be. Dal Allan
- recalled that the guideline for connector selection had been 1500
- matings minimum. This may be excessive for some applications. There
- was a short discussion on the topic with the general conclusion that
- there is no single right answer.
-
- 9.6 Format Progress Reporting (X3T9.2/88-124) [Steve Cornaby]
-
- Steve Cornaby stated that the Format Progress reporting feature was not
- clear and that it was too specific to just one problem. He recommended
- that this kind of information be made available for other long-duration
- commands as well. He further suggested that the information be reported
- in terms of the expected maximum time to complete the command rather than
- the percentage completion. Several others expressed opinions that Steve
- had missed the point of what IBM had wished to accomplish through the
- Format Progress Reporting. No consensus was reached and this item was
- remanded to the working group for further consideration.
-
- In the meantime, the sense key specific bytes in REQUEST SENSE that
- relate to format progress reporting should be revised to make it clear
- that these bytes are only valid following the completion of a FORMAT UNIT
- command with an Immediate bit of one. This action item was assigned to
- Jim Semenak.
-
-
- 10. New Business
-
-
- 10.1 Review of new documents
-
- Asynchronous Event Notification Revision (X3T9.2/88-065 R3) [Paul Boulay]
-
- This document was accepted for incorporation into SCSI-2 R6.
-
-
- WDTR Disable Residue function (X3T9.2/88-116) [Jeff Stai]
-
- The committee requested that this proposal be re-written as a mode
- parameter instead of a modifier bit of the WDTR message. The revised
- proposal was remanded to the working group.
-
-
- Data Pointer (X3T9.2/88-120) [Bill Spence]
-
- Peter Johansson moved and Dal Allan seconded that X3T9.2/88-120 be
- accepted for inclusion in SCSI-2 R6. The motion carried, 10 in favor, 3
- opposed.
-
-
-
-
- Disconnect Control via MODE SELECT (X3T9.2/88-121 R0) [Paul Boulay]
-
- This document was accepted for incorporation into SCSI-2 R6.
-
-
- CHANGE DEFINITION vs. INQUIRY Inconsistency (X3T9.2/88-122) [Skip Jones]
-
- This document was remanded to the working group since Skip was not
- present to defend it.
-
-
- Error Handling Action Codes (X3T9.2/88-127) [G. Penokie]
-
- The committee agreed to assign this as a SCSI-3 work item.
-
-
- 10.2 Agenda for Austin Working Group
-
- The following agenda items were identified. If there is any extra time
- available, then SCSI-3 items will be considered.
-
- 1. Detailed Review of SCSI-2 Revision 6 in preparation for forwarding.
- 2. Format Progress Reporting (X3T9.2/88-124) [Steve Cornaby]
- 3. Rotational Position Locking [Bob Mortensen]
- 4. Medium Changers [Paul Boulay]
- 5. Generic Error Recovery Page (X3T9.2/88-103 Rev 1) [Dan Davies]
- 6. WDTR Disable Residue function (X3T9.2/88-116) [Jeff Stai]
- 7. CHANGE DEFINITION vs. INQUIRY Inconsistency (X3T9.2/88-122) [Skip Jones]
- 8. TERMINATE IMMEDIATE and REPORT BLOCKS TRANSFERRED messages [Steve
- Goldman]
-
-
- 10.3 Alternative Single-ended terminator [Christian Mollard]
-
- Christian Mollard suggested changing the single-ended termination
- resistors to 180/390 ohm values and using a special 1N5818 Schottky diode
- to achieve a better impedance match without requiring any changes to the
- drivers or receivers. The committee was receptive to this idea and asked
- Christian to develop a complete proposal. See enclosure (5).
-
- 10.4 Terminate Immediate
-
- Steve Goldman gave a presentation on the need for a TERMINATE IMMEDIATE
- message when implementing large caches using SCSI direct-access devices.
- The TERMINATE IMMEDIATE message would request the target to terminate the
- current command (presumably a read or write command) at the end of the
- current logical block. The target would return a REPORT BLOCKS
- TRANSFERRED message indicating the actual number of logical blocks
- transferred. Drive-level interfaces such as ESDI have this capability
- and Steve suggested that the addition of this capability would permit
- usage of SCSI drives in certain caching applications. Some alternative
- approaches (such as command queuing) were also briefly discussed.
-
- Steve Goldman moved and Tom Wicklund seconded that X3T9.2 consider adding
- a TERMINATE IMMEDIATE message and a REPORT BLOCKS TRANSFERRED message to
- SCSI-2. The motion carried, 19 in favor and 0 opposed. This topic is to
- be considered at the November working group meeting.
-
- 11. Review of Action Items
-
- 1. Bob Mortensen will take another pass at the wording on Rotational
- Position Locking and will submit it to the working group for further
- consideration.
-
- 2. John Lohmeyer will revise section 5 to include 88-91 along with the
- modifications developed in the August meeting.
-
- 3. Gary Robinson will address the edge connector dimension issue in the
- Flexible Disk standard (X3.80R-198X).
-
- 4. Jim Semenak will correct page 7-31 paragraph 3 in SCSI-2 R5 which
- references a section that does not exist and should contain a
- description of time ordering of log entries.
-
- 5. Jim Semenak will clarify the format-in-progress part of the sense-key
- specific bytes in the REQUEST SENSE data wording so that it is clear
- that it only applies to the FORMAT UNIT command with the Immediate bit
- set to one.
-
- 6. Christian Mollard will develop a complete proposal on changing the
- termination network for single-ended systems.
-
- 7. Dal Allan will revise the ESDI dpANS per the results of the ad hoc
- meeting (see 88-131) and he will forward master copies to John
- Lohmeyer for the X3T9.2 mailing and to Bill Burr for the X3T9 mailing.
-
- 8. Larry Lamers will contact Greg DeRosa concerning the development of a
- model and a glossary for scanner devices and his willingness to be the
- scanner section editor.
-
- 9. John Lohmeyer will obtain Bill Burr's model on rotating mass storage
- devices for possible use in developing the SCSI-2 model for direct-
- access devices.
-
- 12. Meeting Schedule
-
- The next meeting of X3T9.2 will be December 5-6, 1988 at the Hyatt Islandia
- in San Diego (619-224-1234) hosted by Cipher. Please mention "X3T9/Cipher"
- when making reservations to receive the special room rate of $80.00 single
- or double occupancy. The cut-off date for room reservations is November 21,
- 1988.
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
- The X3T9.2 plenary meeting schedule for 1989 is:
-
- Date Location Host
- -------------------- -------------------------- --------
- February 20-21, 1989 Austin, TX Motorola
- April 24-25, 1989 St. Petersburg Beach, FL AMP
- June 19-20, 1989 San Jose, CA AMD
- August 21-22, 1989 Denver DEC
- October 16-17, 1989 Research Triangle Park, NC IBM
- December 4-5, 1989 San Diego, CA NCR
-
-
- 12.1 General Working Group Schedule for 1989
-
- The X3T9.2 general ad-hoc meeting schedule for the remainder of 1988 and
- 1989 is:
-
- Date Location Host
- -------------------- ------------ --------------------------------
- November 7-9, 1988 Austin, TX Bill Spence
- January 9-11, 1989 Irvine, CA Jeff Stai
- March 6-8, 1989 San Jose, CA Jim McGrath {tentative}
- May 8-10, 1989 Wichita, KS John Lohmeyer {tentative}
- July 10-12, 1989 ? ? {tentative date}
- September 6-8, 1989 ? ? {tentative date}
- Oct 30 - Nov 1, 1989 ? ? {tentative date}
-
- 13. Adjournment
-
- The meeting was adjourned at 5:11 p.m. on Tuesday, October 11, 1988.
-